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Podcast: Catching Wildfire – Episode 5: Fire Service Leadership and Wildfire Technology with Chief Fennessy 

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The mission of the Public Safety Broadband Technology Association is to empower the first responder community by providing them with the tools and resources necessary to participate in the overall success of the network. This includes training a new generation of public safety processionals on the fundamentals of the network by providing access and a platform to trade ideas, innovations, best practices and lessons learned that will lead to smarter and more effective public safety services.

by | Jan 14, 2026 | Catching Wildfire, Podcasts

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About This Episode

Main Message: Effective leadership in the modern fire service requires a commitment to authenticity, a willingness to embrace technological innovation, and the persistence to overcome systemic resistance to change.

Key Points

1. Authentic Leadership is Crucial: Chief Brian Fennessy, reflecting on his career, emphasizes that the most important leadership trait is authenticity. He advises upcoming officers to be themselves, acknowledge their mistakes, and remain approachable. Host Jeff Johnson, retired Fire Chief from Tualatin Valley Fire and Rescue, adds that leaders learn as much from bad examples as good ones, often by vowing, “I’m never going to do that to people.”

2. The Fire Service is Closing the Technology Gap: The discussion highlights a shift from the fire service lagging in technology adoption to actively closing the gap. Chief Fennessy notes that recent conferences show a promising fusion of industry innovation and fire service needs, with advancements in low-orbit satellites, autonomous ground resources, and even experimental concepts like lightning prevention. However, leaders must become technologically literate to guide this evolution effectively.

3. Overcoming Resistance to Change is a Constant Battle: The speakers agree that the fire service has an innate resistance to change, often because of personal ownership over established methods. Chief Fennessy cites his push for nighttime wildfire air operations as an example of a simple, effective concept that faced significant resistance. Overcoming this requires persistent, data-driven leadership.

4. Public Safety Associations Drive Progress: Associations like the Western Fire Chiefs and Cal Chiefs are vital for enacting change. They provide a platform for education, foster critical relationships, and advocate for important initiatives. The discussion highlights the need to re-educate a new generation of chiefs on the importance of foundational technologies like FirstNet, whose initial authorization was over a decade ago.

Notable Quotes

“What I’ve learned more than anything else is to be authentic… if you’re just yourself, right? And you are what you are and you acknowledge that you’ve made mistakes along the way… I think people really respect that.”
— Chief Brian Fennessy

Conclusion

This conversation serves as a powerful mentorship session, capturing wisdom from seasoned fire service leaders. It underscores the idea that while the core mission of firefighting remains, the tools, tactics, and leadership philosophies must evolve. The key takeaway for current and future leaders is the need to balance respect for tradition with an urgent embrace of new technologies and a leadership style founded on humility, persistence, and a deep, service-oriented heart..

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The mission of the Public Safety Broadband Technology Association is to empower the first responder community by providing them with the tools and resources necessary to participate in the overall success of the network. This includes training a new generation of public safety processionals on the fundamentals of the network by providing access and a platform to trade ideas, innovations, best practices and lessons learned that will lead to smarter and more effective public safety services.